{"id":1241,"date":"2015-04-02T01:14:55","date_gmt":"2015-04-02T01:14:55","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/arts-attic.com\/blog\/?p=1241"},"modified":"2017-01-07T20:48:41","modified_gmt":"2017-01-07T20:48:41","slug":"religious-fantasies","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/arts-attic.com\/blog\/?p=1241","title":{"rendered":"Religious Fantasies"},"content":{"rendered":"

From Merriam Webster: Fantasy<\/a><\/p>\n

: something that is produced by the imagination : an idea about doing something that is far removed from normal reality<\/p>\n

: the act of imagining something<\/p>\n

: a book, movie, etc., that tells a story about things that happen in an imaginary world<\/em><\/p>\n

Friday the 3rd of April 2015 is known among Christians as Good Friday. To Romans of the time it is known as the day another criminal was put to death in accord with the law of the land. The Sunday following is known as Easter Sunday the day the Zombie King of Christianity rises from the grave to rule the land and steal your soul.<\/p>\n

Now Curtis Cavanaugh<\/a> Wrote on Facebook:<\/p>\n

“Why are we are told that gay people didn\u2019t get to choose their sexuality and yet we\u2019re told that transgender people must be allowed to choose their gender?”<\/p>\n

Now I read the following posts, and good people tried to explain that some people are different from other people and then the posts turned to sins and sinners, so I decided to poke the bear a little bit with some Christian baiting and a post from YouTube and a man undergoing a female to male transition and now pretty much on the male side of that process.<\/p>\n

chase. story of chase packing and trying to pee.<\/a><\/p>\n

Curtis Cavanaugh<\/a> Art Joly, do you really think that I want to see a video from the transgender calendar project about some guy packing and trying to pee? I’m going to have to delete that one.<\/p>\n

What I think Mr. Cavanaugh was really deleting was my comparison of The Holy Bible aka “Scripture” to the works of Anne Rice — her series of vampire books.<\/p>\n

I wanted to point out to them that their only real reference to the reality of their faith is The Bible. The Library. A collection of books chosen by men, written by men edited by men. And I compare The Holy Bible to the collected works of Anne Rice, not so much her historical novels such as Feast of All Saints about the free men of color in ante-bellum New Orleans, but the vampire novels and that wonderful cast of characters Anne Rice imagined and the world she created for them to live in.<\/p>\n

Curtis Cavanaugh<\/a>
\nWhy are we are told that gay people didn\u2019t get to choose their sexuality and yet we\u2019re told that transgender people must be allowed to choose their gender?
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Chris Pope, Jack Smith and Heidi Stearns like this.<\/p>\n

Jimi Fischer It’s George Bush’s fault and you’re a racist!
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\nMike Laubach It actually follows the same lines. They did not choose to be born sex or the other. Sometimes wires get crossed. We can’t all be blue-eye’d blond Germans. Even I only got 1 out of 3 on that one!
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\nCathie Vargo McAdams Can you imagine the torment that someone must be going through to voluntarily go through all of those painful and expensive surgeries? To go through all of that psychotherapy? Or to take hormones and drugs for the rest of their lives? In the hopes that it will change their lives for the better? I’ve been mighty damn unhappy but never that unhappy.
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\nCathie Vargo McAdams I helped write the gender reassignment surgery benefit for my former employer. It took us a year of meeting twice a week to list all of the surgeries, all of the meds and hormones, all of the therpaies and treatments.
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\nCathie Vargo McAdams I’m not saying the decision to change genders is right or wrong, I am saying that it isn’t a split second decision.
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\nCurtis Cavanaugh Mike Laubach, I don’t understand what you mean by wires getting crossed.
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\nMike Laubach Metaphorical wires. The brain works on electrical charges, and is at the core of the question.
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\nCurtis Cavanaugh Ok, but they’re not trying to change their brains.
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\nMike Laubach No, because we can’t. But we *can* change some things.
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\nBarry Saney Because sometimes people are born a certain way that is not of their choosing. Their internal self identity becomes a problem when the outside and the inside (of the mind) don’t match. Who are we to judge this? I was born with a Red Green optical deficiency, should I be judged because of it? How is that different from the other things people are born with they didn’t choose. ?
\nI’ve had some struggle with this as any Christian would , but I’m not the final ( or any ) judge and I’m only required to ” love thy neighbor as thyself” . I can’t begin to imagine the transgender mind dealing with its confusion.
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\nCurtis Cavanaugh http:\/\/www.duffelblog.com\/…\/op-ed-i-sexually-identify…\/
\nOp-Ed: I Sexually Identify As An A-10 Thunderbolt
\nThe following is an opinion piece written by…
\nduffelblog.com
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\nBarry Saney That’s hilarious!!
\nWhat I don’t get about this topic is the coverage. The people this affects are a minute fraction of the population. Let them be , God will be their final judge , not any of us. Our job is easier, we get to show compassion.
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\nCurtis Cavanaugh Barry Saney, that’s very interesting. I did not know that you were born with a Red Green optical deficiency. Of course, that’s probably because you’re not flaunting it on a regular basis either.
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\nBarry Saney And people have been burned at the stake for less … The idea is simple – “this is me ” accept me as I am. The discrimination of such people is born of a mix of basic misunderstanding and a deep religious fervor to define relationships. While we know the religious definition exists, the Land we live in guarantees non discrimination by Law.
\nMy response is – How would Christ want me to respond to someone in need ? Do I take notes of their orientation and decide IF I should help? No , I just help.
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\nDana McElveen Bates When society rejects the moral absolutes of the Bible, this is inevitably where things spiral. Pedophiles. Are they born that way? Who’s to say pedophilia is “wrong” if between 2 consenting persons? What about their happiness, don’t they deserve to be happy and live their lives the way they desire? The way their ‘brains are wired’. And why is polygamy illegal? Why can’t I marry my dog? Who are you to define what marriage is or isn’t?<\/p>\n

When you take God (and his design for marriage) out of the picture, the line of what’s acceptable and what’s not is suddenly drawn in sidewalk chalk. Easy to erase and move wherever the culture deems it appropriate. And everyone does what is right in their own eyes. A very, very scary scenario.
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\nBarry Saney Dana , you are correct about the Bible having moral absolutes. But in Jesus’ day polygamy was ok and you could be married off as a young teenager. You could also be a slave and be ok. Society has worked hard to change some of those situations, belie…See More
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\nDana McElveen Bates An interesting thing about the Bible, is that you can twist it and remove single verses from context and make them say whatever you’d like them to say. The Bible most certainly does not condone polygamy, slavery, homosexuality etc… Who defines absolutes? God. Period.<\/p>\n

Let’s worry a little less about offending sinners by not baking their cakes, and a little more about offending a Holy God!
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\nBarry Saney Dana you are correct. Offending sinners is the least of my concerns.
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\nCurtis Cavanaugh Art Joly, do you really think that I want to see a video from the transgender calendar project about some guy packing and trying to pee? I’m going to have to delete that one.
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\nArt Joly Go right ahead, but you said guy and the person in question is a female to male conversion. So according to your bible he’s a she.
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